An Interview with Mike Thorn: Shelter for the Damned

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It was such a treat to get to chat with Mike Thorn. He’s in good company here with his early exposure to Stine and King, but the way he stacks jobs is pretty commendable as well. In this interview, we’re getting to know Mike and celebrating the release of his new book Shelter for the Damned.

Mackenzie Kiera | LOTF: Would you tell us a little about yourself? Where are you in the world and what is it like?

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Mike Thorn: I live in Calgary, where the weather is very dry and the politics are, unfortunately, quite conservative. I teach English composition and literary analysis at a local college, and I also write horror fiction and freelance film criticism. I have always been fascinated with film and literature, for as long as I can remember.

MK | LOTF: When in your life did you start to get into horror?

MT: I was into R. L. Stine and Christopher Pike quite young ... probably around the age of seven or eight. And then I read Stephen King's Pet Sematary when I was about twelve years old, and there was no turning back.


MK | LOTF: What was the first thing you remember writing and how old were you?

MT: I've been writing for as long as I can remember. One of the earliest things I remember was an elementary school class assignment that asked us to write stories on stacks of ghost-shaped paper. My submission ended with the main character getting stabbed by a ghost for no apparent reason. I spelled the word "knife" like "nife."

MK | LOTF: A lot of people have been having a hard time finding their creative muse this past year. How has your experience been?

MT: I'd say that has been the case with me, too, that I've had a hard time finding the creative muse. Early into the pandemic, I was lucky to have a couple writing assignments. The deadlines held me accountable.

MK | LOTF: Do you have any upcoming projects you would like to discuss? Tell us about Shelter for the Damned!

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MT: Shelter for the Damned is my debut novel. It's a twisted and pessimistic coming-of-age / suburban horror narrative set in a deliberately ambiguated suburban environment in the year 2003. It takes inspiration from some of the dark psychology found in books by Hubert Selby Jr. and Jim Thompson.

I also have two short story collections coming out soon from JournalStone (details pending): Darkest Hours is getting a newly revised reissue with bonus content, and my follow-up collection Peel Back and See will be released after that.


MK | LOTF: And where can our listeners/readers find you?

MT: My website is https://mikethornwrites.com/. I'm also on Twitter (https://twitter.com/MikeThornWrites), Goodreads (https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/5829518.Mike_Thorn), and Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/mikethornwrites/).

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Mike Thorn is the author of the short story collection Darkest Hours and the novel Shelter for the Damned. His fiction has appeared in numerous magazines, anthologies and podcasts, including Vastarien, Dark Moon Digest, The NoSleep Podcast, Tales to Terrify and Prairie Gothic. His film criticism has been published in MUBI Notebook, The Film Stage, Seventh Row, Bright Lights Film Journal and Vague Visages. He completed his M.A. with a major in English literature at the University of Calgary, where he wrote a thesis on epistemophobia in John Carpenter’s Prince of Darkness.


An Interview with Arjay Lewis:

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This week, I’m thrilled to showcase Arjay’s fascinating interview. It was a true pleasure to receive this written interview because Arjay has led a fun-filled, extraordinary life. Goes to show that the path to being an author isn’t always the road most traveled, or even sort of traveled. It’s YOUR path and the way YOU have traveled it. Let’s give some applause to Arjay.

Mackenzie Kiera | LOTF: Would you tell us a little about yourself? Where are you in the world and what is it like?

Arjay Lewis: I have been a professional magician and entertainer for over 45 years. I started as a street-performer back in the 1970s. I was seen by a casting director for the Broadway show BARNUM in 1980, and did that show for two years. I have gone on to perform at casinos, cruise ships and private events and made a good living. Now I live in New Jersey with my wife, author Debra Snow, in a 170 year old farmhouse last updated about 120 years ago. I spend a lot of time upgrading my home one room at a time.


MK | LOTF: When in your life did you start to get into horror?

AL: I actually can give you the exact date, June 19, 1999. I started writing a short story called, THE DARK, about a night guard who saw things in the dark that were actually there. That story eventually sold to the HP Lovecraft Magazine of Horror. I had never written horror before, and I found it odd I was attracted to it. The next day I found out that Stephen King had been hit by a truck and was in the hospital. I got an odd feeling that there was something that wanted that story to be written, and since King couldn’t do it, it ended up with me. That concept led me to write the novel, THE MUSE, about a serial killer author with a symbiotic creature that moved from person to person. Since then I have written three horror novels, along with the other genres I write in.

MK | LOTF: What was the first thing you remember writing and how old were you?

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AL: I remember writing a puppet show when I was 16, and went on to write plays and screenplays for years afterwards. I have several mentors who were writers and I starting writing short stories and novels in the 1990s.

MK | LOTF: A lot of people have been having a hard time finding their creative muse this past year. How has your experience been?

AL: My output has been reduced a bit. I only put out 3 books last year as opposed to 5 in 2019. However, the quality of my writing has improved immensely. I recently started to work with a new editor, and she challenges me in ways that force me to improve as an artist and writer.

MK | LOTF: Do you have any upcoming projects you would like to discuss? Tell us about The Vanishing.

AL: THE VANISHING is a new angle on the legends of the famed Jersey Devil combined with well-rounded characters and an exciting storyline. I did research in the Pinelands of New Jersey right before the lockdowns began. I have several horror novel ideas and I will be working on them in 2021.

MK | LOTF: Which (or which one(s)) classic book have you NEVER read and don’t intend on reading? (Think, like, Moby Dick, Wuthering Heights--that stuff)

AL: I tried to get through MOBY DICK, but after the chapter about “The whiteness of the whale” I lost interest. I fought my way through ULYSSES by James Joyce, but found it incomprehensible. However, I love Dickens. For a modern audience his stories start slow, but he truly was the Shakespeare of the Novel.

 MK | LOTF: Do you have a favorite monster? And why have they stolen your heart?

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AL: I have a soft space in my heart for Frankenstein’s monster. (Then again, I have played the character at private events. But my favorites are the ones I come up with. For THE MUSE I created a symbiotic creature that could move from person to person and take control. For KEPT IN THE DARK, the novel I wrote based on my own short story, I came up with shadow creatures from another dimension. With THE VANISHING, it was folklore about the Jersey Devil and other famed Native-American monsters that were the focus. My personal favorite is the creature from THE MUSE, which is simply called “The Other.” It just wants to survive, despite the terrible things it does to each of its hosts.

 MK | LOTF: and where can our listeners/readers find you?

AL: My books and audiobooks are available on Amazon, and of course you can visit my site at www.arjaylewis.com


Arjay Lewis (aka R.J. Lewis) is a multi-award-winning author, entertainer, and magician. He has experienced every level of show business from street-performing to Broadway.

Arjay’s novels have won over twenty-six awards. The Muse: A Novel of Unrelenting Terror, won 14 awards in the Horror category in book competitions. His urban fantasy novel, The Wizards Of Central Park West won 6 Awards including the coveted Eric Hoffer Award. He also is the author of the In The Mind series, which consists of ten novels with more to come.

Arjay’s published stories have appeared in H.P. Lovecraft Magazine Of Horror, Weird Tales, and Sherlock Holmes Mystery Magazine. He also has been published in the anthology The Lacy Curtain Between Life & Death.

He has collaborated on several films including: Down In Flames: The True Story Of Tony ‘Volcano’ Valenci, which has won seven Film Festival awards. His screenplay for Dummy (co-written with Pamela Wess) was the winning screenplay for the 2017 Garden State Film Festival.

He is married to the author of romantic mysteries, Debra Snow.

Reversing the Slasher: An Interview with Horror Author Scott Thomas

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We had the honor of first speaking with horror author Scott Thomas at the end of 2019 in episode 44 of the podcast. In that episode, we talked a lot about Scott’s experience with writing his signature slow burn horror fiction in the novels Kill Creek and Violet. Each of these books revealed his intimate understand of the horror genre, as well his unique ability to flip trope and defy convention. His novella The Boy in the Woods, while different in form and structure, is written in Scott’s signature empathetic style. I loved this heartbreaking rush of a book. It offers the nostalgia many horror fans crave, while also flipping expectation and evolving the genre. Which is, in my humble estimation, what good horror fiction is all about.

I was delighted to have the opportunity to welcome Scott back to Ladies of the Fright in written form.

Lisa Quigley | Ladies of the Fright: We last spoke toward the end of 2019. It almost feels like another lifetime! Tell us how you’re doing. And although this is sure to be a loaded question, what’s new for you since we last spoke on the podcast?

Scott Thomas: Well, that whole 2020 thing happened, so there’s that. But professionally, I spent most of the past year writing and showrunning a series for Syfy based on George A. Romero’s Day of the Dead. I spent four months up in Vancouver shooting it. We reimagined the characters and expanded the world to show what might happen during a living dead invasion that could lead to the situation we see in Romero’s movie. It’s scary, gory, a little over-the-top and a lot of fun. I also worked on some short stories and novellas, including The Boy in the Woods. And I have a few screenplays in the works.

LQ | LOTF: The novella The Boy in the Woods is your latest project. Tell us more about what made you want to write it? 

ST: It was an idea I’d had for a long time, but it all kind of fell into place last year. I wanted to write a flip on ‘80s camp slasher movies where the counselors are the bad guys and the weird outcast camper is the hero.

LQ | LOTF: There seems to be a “boom” in the horror novella as of late. What is it you like about the form? 

ST: I really enjoy writing novels and getting lost in the expansive world and the tangents that novels allow, but novellas are a lot of fun to tell a fast, lean, mean story that goes off like a rocket. I have several ideas that I don’t think are quite big enough for a novel, so the novella form is perfect for those projects that fall somewhere in the middle.

LQ | LOTF: How was your experience writing a novella vs. writing a novel? Did you find there were any freedoms? Any limitations? 

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ST: After writing Violet, which is a very slow-burn supernatural novel, I wanted to write something with very little setup before the action kicks in. I wasn’t sure how long The Boy in the Woods would be; I just knew that I wanted it to be as lean as possible and only tell the story of what was happening at the camp. When I finished it, I knew it was much too long to be thought of as a “short story,” so it fell into that middle ground of “novella.” There was definitely freedom in not feeling like I had to take my sweet time building a slow burn story like Kill Creek or Violet. I could just set up the characters and let the shit hit the fan. I didn’t really feel any limitations while writing it because I knew I wasn’t telling a novel-length story. I was only limited by the amount of story I chose to tell.

LQ | LOTF: There is a lot that is familiar about The Boy in the Woods: summer camp, slasher vibe, outsider kid, etc. At the same time, you’ve managed to take these tropes and do something altogether new. Tell us more about how these different pieces came together for you.

ST: I grew up in the ‘80s, so most of my horror consumption at that time was slasher films. I loved supernatural horror like The Shining, The Amityville Horror, The Changeling, The Omen, but I really loved slasher movies. Halloween, Friday the 13th, A Nightmare on Elm Street, Madman, The Burning, Sleepaway Camp, Tourist Trap, Terror Train, My Bloody Valentine, Slaughterhouse—there are too many to name. You could always go to the video store and find a badass slasher movie for a Saturday night. That was the era of the horror anti-hero where Jason and Michael and Freddy were the stars of the show. For as long as I can remember, I had this vague idea of turning the slasher story on its head and making the counselors the threat so the campers would have to kill them to survive. The pieces really didn’t start to come together until I came up with the character of Eddie. Once I really knew who he was, the last line of the story popped into my head and I knew it was finally time to write it.

LQ | LOTF: That ending though—my heart! I won’t spoil, especially since this is a novella and I want readers to stay as surprised as possible. But I will say...moments before it happened, I realized where it was going and my heart sank. Like I said, we don’t want to spoil, but I am curious, but I would love to hear your thoughts on crafting compelling endings. 

ST: I almost never start writing a story or script until I’m positive about the ending. Things can change along the way, but the ending almost always stays the same. I have to know my destination before I can start on the journey. Kill Creek was that way, although the epilogue changed drastically while working with an editor at Inkshares. Originally there was a completely different epilogue. Violet always had that ending, although the very last line didn’t come to me until I wrote it. For The Boy in the Woods, I knew the last line from the beginning. A lot of the tragic things that happened along the way were pleasant—if you can call them “pleasant”—surprises for me. But I always knew where it was going. I want an ending to be satisfying for the reader, but since this is horror, I want to leave them with something haunting, something a bit open-ended that hits them in the gut and the heart. Character and emotion are very important to me when I tell a story. I want the horror to be visceral but also emotional. When I came up with the character of Eddie, I realized the exact story I was telling and that it could be more than just a meta take on slasher horror. I had tried writing some version of The Boy in the Woods before, but it wasn’t until I knew who Eddie was and I had that last line that I felt I finally had the whole story in my head.

LQ | LOTF: I think making the main character a boy who’s been previously maimed by a dog was a bold choice, because it had the potential to really veer into insensitive territory. I think the way you avoid doing this is really allowing us to connect with Eddie on a personal level, and after reading it, I definitely see it as an indictment against “ableism” and the ways our society rejects anyone who’s “different.” Can you talk more about this and shed some light on your choices in how you characterized Eddie? 

ST: Whenever I’m writing a character with a different life experience than me, I try to be as careful as I can to make it feel authentic and not exploitative. I’m not always 100% successful, but the intention is always there. You never know how a reader will react until you write something and put it out into the world, but if I expect the reader to care about my characters, I have to care about them. I have to love them for everything they are. I’ve learned a lot as a writer from reader reactions to Kill Creek and Violet. I try to read every comment and review and I take it all to heart. For The Boy in the Woods, I knew I was telling a reverse slasher story, and in those ‘80s movies, the villain always had something about them that made them different, an outsider. Leatherface apparently had the mentality of a child, Jason had some sort of physical deformity, Freddy and Cropsy were both horribly burned, Angela had her own secret. So I wanted our hero to be an outsider like them, but I also wanted to understand how the torment he experienced felt, how awful that must have been to be Jason going to summer camp and being bullied by the other kids and pitied or ignored by the counselors. When I started to explore that, I realized how misunderstood someone like Jason is—a kid who is picked on, who is left to drown by the counselors, who sees his mother murdered—he’s really a sympathetic character. He’s not even allowed to rest in peace once Tommy sticks a lightning rod in his corpse in Part 6. So for The Boy in the Woods, I wanted to start there, with a kid who is “different,” who doesn’t look like the other kids, and to really see the story from his point of view. I wanted to show that once you get past the scars, he’s no different from any other kid. He has the same hopes and fears, the same insecurities and moments of triumph. He’s a great kid, and the bullies can go to hell.

LQ | LOTF: What else would you like to share about ‘the making of’ The Boy in the Woods

ST: I started writing it while in pre-production for Day of the Dead and finished it while in quarantine up in Canada. It was a great way to escape the isolation of quarantine, and I hope it’s a fun but wicked escape for readers.

LQ | LOTF: Do you have any new upcoming projects you’d like to discuss? 

ST: In addition to the Day of the Dead series which will premiere sometime in 2021, I’m working on several short stories/novellas in hopes of putting out a collection this year. I also have some big screen projects in the works that I can hopefully announce soon.

LQ | LOTF: Remind our audience where they can find you: 

ST: You can find me on Facebook on my official page @scottthomaswriteshorror. On Instagram @officialscottthomas. On Twitter @ninjawhenever. Kill Creek and Violet are available wherever books are sold. And The Boy in the Woods is available as an ebook exclusively at Inkshares.com.


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Scott Thomas is the Stoker Nominated Author of KILL CREEK and VIOLET. He is also the creator/EP of RC9GN, Best Friends Whenever, Raven's Home, Malibu Rescue and Syfy’s Day of the Dead.


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